Calling all referrers!

[bean]

lets face it, rewards1's affiliate compensation system is out of date. the simplistic model, while effective, is being trumped by newer systems ie. pay per signup bonuses, pay for activation bonuses, higher %'s, etc etc. and we've fallen behind. we know its a problem and we need to fix it.

but to fix it i'm going to need your help. i need to know what i'm up against. in return i promise to come up with a new payout schema which will make EVERYONE happy. except maybe my competitors :lol2

so, i invite the larger affiliates to PM me. lets talk :thumbs

[R1-Raper]

You are up against sites where the members are a lot more active. Just try and keep members on your website instead of them just doing 2 offers and leaving for good.

Simple Suggestions that I've PM'd to you:
20-25% 1st level referral commision
3% 2nd level referral commision
0.20 Signup Bonus(US and Canada only)
0.20 First Offer Bonus

[Billinator]

Also you should do something else with the monthly earning %. Say if your at 20%, you get .20 for refs signing ups, if your at 30% you get .30, and 40% you get .40 for each ref that signs up under your link. But they'll also get a .20 cent bonus.

[Eric Sherman]

Simple Suggestions that I've PM'd to you:
20-25% 1st level referral commision
3% 2nd level referral commision
0.20 Signup Bonus(US and Canada only)
0.20 First Offer Bonus

Wouldn't interest anybody really. It may keep members here, but definitely not bring members back.

[R1-Raper]

That would definitely bring me back here. I think it would because of the fact that since it is so easy to get referrals to R1, 20 cents is more than enough. They probably wouldn't be able to afford your demands anyways. You have to realize that this is a company and it needs to make money to stay in business.

[Freezeice04]

Here are some sites from the top of my head which I use:

CrownGPT: Pays 50c per active referral (completes at least one offer). The problem with this site is that it is extremely hard to get active referrals - not totally sure why but its probably because there aren't as much offers or the offers are hard to credit.

This site also has monthly contests paying $25, $50 or $100 to 2 or 3 people. This site also pays 15% of your referral earnings

Personally, the main reason I refer here is due to the contest. The 50c ref bonus is just a small addition.

Gift 4 Points: Pays 25c per referral that confirms their email and 25c per active referral. Hardly any offers here though. They also have competitions which is another plus.

I refer here for the referral bonuses :) Also the competition sometimes too.

Those two I refer to ;P

[Sullyy94]

I reckon it would be good, if u get 25 cents per sign up and confirm email :D

[bean]

Wouldn't interest anybody really. It may keep members here, but definitely not bring members back.

you can't say that for everyone, as not all referrers are the same.

i want a system thats good for everyone. its the old, 100 referrals that do $1 each, or 1 that does $100 problem. you told me that yourself. signup bonus sites gimmick affiliates with juicy numbers ($0.50 - 1+) per signup - but lets see how long u stay at top signup rate if you're the 100 referrals/$1 guy. and if you have quality seo traffic (1 referral/$100 guy), you're at the other end of the problem. you lose out by being on a low % system.

i want a system thats good for everyone, AND pays more than the other gpt's. ya i said it. :smile

[Freezeice04]

I think the 2nd level referral bonuses aren't anything. The more important ones are the signup/confirm email/active referral bonus and contests IMO.

[Amp]

i want a system thats good for everyone, AND pays more than the other gpt's. ya i said it. :smile

$1.50 Ref Sign Up (Complete's an offer) :banana

[Billinator]

$1.50 Ref Sign Up (Complete's an offer) :banana

lol you wish but it would be nice.

[jkernan7553]

Scratch my other post, here are my new ideas:

$25 per click on ref link
$100 per sign up
$200 per sign up w/ activation
$400 per sign up w/ offer completed
500% of ref earnings
$100 for each of your refs that gets a ref, to level 10 downline
$1000 for signing in each day.


Use these, and you will be the leader as far as payouts.

[Billinator]

Scratch my other post, here are my new ideas:

$25 per click on ref link
$100 per sign up
$200 per sign up w/ activation
$400 per sign up w/ offer completed
500% of ref earnings
$100 for each of your refs that gets a ref, to level 10 downline
$1000 for signing in each day.


Use these, and you will be the leader as far as payouts.

Um, sh*t! Thats some cash right there. Unless you weren't serious.

[jkernan7553]

Um, sh*t! Thats some cash right there. Unless you weren't serious.

Dude, i was totally serious...

or, R1 if you wanted to keep it simple, just send $4,000 checks every other day to all members.

[Billinator]

Dude, i was totally serious...

or, R1 if you wanted to keep it simple, just send $4,000 checks every other day to all members.

You need to be more reasonable. I'd say $20 cash to all members every Friday, like Friday happy hour. Every Friday at 5pm each member gets $20 in cash. Its like a yabadabbadu payment. (The Flinstone Reference).

[jkernan7553]

You need to be more reasonable. I'd say $20 cash to all members every Friday, like Friday happy hour. Every Friday at 5pm each member gets $20 in cash. Its like a yabadabbadu payment. (The Flinstone Reference).

True, true.

Or, introduce a feature where everytime you get $20, you get another $20. So you would go on at 5pm on Friday, get $20, get another $20, get another, and another etc. then in about 3 mins you'd have enough to buy R1!

[Eric Sherman]

That would definitely bring me back here. I think it would because of the fact that since it is so easy to get referrals to R1, 20 cents is more than enough. They probably wouldn't be able to afford your demands anyways. You have to realize that this is a company and it needs to make money to stay in business.

If they can't afford my demands then they should tell me that and stop wasting my time through emails.

you can't say that for everyone, as not all referrers are the same.

i want a system thats good for everyone. its the old, 100 referrals that do $1 each, or 1 that does $100 problem. you told me that yourself. signup bonus sites gimmick affiliates with juicy numbers ($0.50 - 1+) per signup - but lets see how long u stay at top signup rate if you're the 100 referrals/$1 guy. and if you have quality seo traffic (1 referral/$100 guy), you're at the other end of the problem. you lose out by being on a low % system.

i want a system thats good for everyone, AND pays more than the other gpt's. ya i said it. :smile

For the record, my *********** promo's are, and always have been, $0.50. Don't knock my traffic. As for "I can't say that for everyone", alright my bad. I can say it for anybody who knows what the **** they are doing in referring is sharing my belief on that. So my bad, I guess I didn't account for the users bringing in 5 a day.

I would take a system advantageous to mass quantities of users ANY day whether I bring in 5 users a day or 500. A user has to make between $15-$20 before a 30% outweighs the 20% + $1.00 promo. The average referral will not make nearly $15-20, especially with lower paying offers here...

I'm not trying to bash you bean, but in your email you said you owe it to me to talk to me first before responding to the post I made on this thread, and then you end up responding before hearing my response and you are bashing my comment which when you read my email you will realize that you did not at all understand my comment.

Here's what it comes down to. You, not I, you, emailed me asking what rewards1 needs to improve in referring to be the best. I told you what rewards1 needs to do in order to be the best. It's pretty clear what rewards1 needs to do. I'm not at all pleased with how you chose to respond to my voiced opinion when you asked for my voiced opinion to begin with.

Plain and simple, blademog and I bring in around 180,000+ users a year combined. If 180,000 users can be given to your competitor and you can still call yourself the "best" GPT, then I owe you some mad props. In reality, you know what you have to do. If you don't want to hear my opinion, don't ask for it. If you don't like my opinion, stop asking for it. If you want to hear my opinion, don't flame me for it.

[Kieran]

You are up against sites where the members are a lot more active. Just try and keep members on your website instead of them just doing 2 offers and leaving for good.

Simple Suggestions that I've PM'd to you:
20-25% 1st level referral commision
3% 2nd level referral commision
0.20 Signup Bonus(US and Canada only)
0.20 First Offer Bonus

**** you, you wanker, why don't the UK get a signup bonus?

[R1-Raper]

Hahah...I meant like if members from those locations sign up, then we get the sign up bonus from them.

[Kieran]

You mean, so if a dude from the US or Canada sign up, even if we're in the UK, we'll still get twenty cents? Yeah, I'm on the same page now xD

[FireStorm]

Hahah...I meant like if members from those locations sign up, then we get the sign up bonus from them.

It should also include UK and AUS because they got some offers ;)

[imagripandsip]

Eric said it all

[m3nt4l]

Higher ref earnings, ref sign up bonus, points from downline referals. DO NOT LEAVE THE UK OUT - please:frown

[bean]

If they can't afford my demands then they should tell me that and stop wasting my time through emails.



For the record, my *********** promo's are, and always have been, $0.50. Don't knock my traffic. As for "I can't say that for everyone", alright my bad. I can say it for anybody who knows what the **** they are doing in referring is sharing my belief on that. So my bad, I guess I didn't account for the users bringing in 5 a day.

I would take a system advantageous to mass quantities of users ANY day whether I bring in 5 users a day or 500. A user has to make between $15-$20 before a 30% outweighs the 20% + $1.00 promo. The average referral will not make nearly $15-20, especially with lower paying offers here...

I'm not trying to bash you bean, but in your email you said you owe it to me to talk to me first before responding to the post I made on this thread, and then you end up responding before hearing my response and you are bashing my comment which when you read my email you will realize that you did not at all understand my comment.

Here's what it comes down to. You, not I, you, emailed me asking what rewards1 needs to improve in referring to be the best. I told you what rewards1 needs to do in order to be the best. It's pretty clear what rewards1 needs to do. I'm not at all pleased with how you chose to respond to my voiced opinion when you asked for my voiced opinion to begin with.

Plain and simple, blademog and I bring in around 180,000+ users a year combined. If 180,000 users can be given to your competitor and you can still call yourself the "best" GPT, then I owe you some mad props. In reality, you know what you have to do. If you don't want to hear my opinion, don't ask for it. If you don't like my opinion, stop asking for it. If you want to hear my opinion, don't flame me for it.

i honestly don't understand why you're so sensitive. i asked in the opening email if we could keep this professional. perhaps that was too much to ask.

i'm talking apples and you're arguing oranges. let me explain this another way. the payout system (% vs signup bonus) is completely irrelevant. all that matters is "which GPT pays me most for my traffic". again something you said.

the point is, r1 needs to pay out more than the others and that's what we're trying to figure out. we're behind the payout curve, and we need to up the bar, end of story.

so to all you referrers out there who have experiences with the other "bigger" gpt's... pm me your stats and lets talk. :thumbs

lastly, since you dragged our private conversation out, i'd like to remind you to remember what i told you - all non-constructive material with no redeeming value will be removed from the forums.

have a nice day

[larcha]

I made $550 on rewards1 with about 10,000 referrals.
I made $4,400 so far on *********** with about 15,000 referrals.

Hope you enjoyed me sharing my stats.

[bean]

I made $550 on rewards1 with about 10,000 referrals.
I made $4,400 so far on *********** with about 15,000 referrals.

Hope you enjoyed me sharing my stats.

this is exactly what i need to know. keep em coming :thumbs

questions:
- does pee2ess tell you how many active refs you get, or it just tells you "you got x refs"
- what payout % were u at for $550/10k refs?
- are you at $0.50 signup/$0.50 active still or have you been bumped down?

thanks

[R1-Raper]

OOkay, but this number will not be a constant. It also depends on the users that one refers, so you can't just say that if someone refers 15,000 people to R1, they'll earn X amount of dollars. I have 1843 referrals on R1 and I've only earned about 55$ from ALL of them. This information will more than likely not help you.

Anyways:
300$ from 600 Referrals on ***
55$ from 1843 Referrals on R1
50$ from 94 Referrals on PR
3$ from 46 Referrals on TT
60$ from 100 Referrals on **************
I have more but I got to go.

[larcha]

this is exactly what i need to know. keep em coming :thumbs

questions:
- does pee2ess tell you how many active refs you get, or it just tells you "you got x refs"
- what payout % were u at for $550/10k refs?
- are you at $0.50 signup/$0.50 active still or have you been bumped down?

thanks

questions:
- does pee2ess tell you how many active refs you get, or it just tells you "you got x refs"
ANSWER: It just says X amount of refs.

- what payout % were u at for $550/10k refs?
30%

- are you at $0.50 signup/$0.50 active still or have you been bumped down?
i am still at $0.50 signup/$0.50 active

-LARCHA

EDIT: I agree with most of the stuff eric sherman is saying about poiints2shops advantages over rewards1...

[Mason]

i spent months getting 500 refs here which earned me $60...

it took me 5 minutes to go upstairs and ask mom for $60

tip: ask your parents dont waste time on gpt's just troll forums

[bean]

i hear a lot of pee2ess, but how about cashcrate? is pee2ess > cashcrate?

[bean]

another question, does pee2ess tell you your referrals performance? like how many offers/points they did?

EDIT: I agree with most of the stuff eric sherman is saying about poiints2shops advantages over rewards1...

what advantages specifically are you referring to? if you mean they pay more, i don't disagree? or were u talking about something else?

[IV BlackOut VI]

another question, does pee2ess tell you your referrals performance? like how many offers/points they did?



what advantages specifically are you referring to? if you mean they pay more, i don't disagree? or were u talking about something else?

Some of the advantages for Pee2Ess ref. are that offers are easier to do,so you'll get more money when your ref. does more offers.They get a sign up bonus of $.50 or 250 points.They hold a daily lottery,which you can win 6000 points ($60.00).The only way to get lottery tickets is to do an offer.You'll be getting more earnings if your refs want more tickets.They can play games to win points,which makes them not feel so bad when offers don't credit.They have an active chat box to ask/help/converse about problems and other stuff.Ref performance is based on alot of factors,and Pee2Ess seems to hit most of them right.I suggest you take some ideas,not just for refs,but for the whole site itself.One I'd like to see added would be something like Pee2Ess's Spin2Win.After every offer,you can spin a wheel to get merits,lottery tickets,sweepstakes entries,etc.Also,another site does something like this,but gives you cash as prizes for spinning.I think it would be a cool feature.

[bean]

Some of the advantages for Pee2Ess ref. are that offers are easier to do,so you'll get more money when your ref. does more offers.They get a sign up bonus of $.50 or 250 points.They hold a daily lottery,which you can win 6000 points ($60.00).The only way to get lottery tickets is to do an offer.You'll be getting more earnings if your refs want more tickets.They can play games to win points,which makes them not feel so bad when offers don't credit.They have an active chat box to ask/help/converse about problems and other stuff.Ref performance is based on alot of factors,and Pee2Ess seems to hit most of them right.I suggest you take some ideas,not just for refs,but for the whole site itself.One I'd like to see added would be something like Pee2Ess's Spin2Win.After every offer,you can spin a wheel to get merits,lottery tickets,sweepstakes entries,etc.Also,another site does something like this,but gives you cash as prizes for spinning.I think it would be a cool feature.

i should have been more specific. we are talking about referrers and the different payout systems, not site features and user experience. but you bring up a good point - site retention and user productivity, both of which need to be improved too.

[Freezeice04]

377 referrals got me $170 on crownGPT
and tbh, Im only staying in r1 cause of this contest.

[larcha]

another question, does pee2ess tell you your referrals performance? like how many offers/points they did?



what advantages specifically are you referring to? if you mean they pay more, i don't disagree? or were u talking about something else?

BTW, Cashcrate banned me after I earned $100 on there. They didnt like how my referrals came from a blog.

*********** gives me $1 for an active user in the cash section. And I earn 15% and receive points.

It shows:

Referrals over the last 60 days
Total new referrals vs verified referrals for this offer starting from today on the right.

Referral Earnings over the last 60 days
Total earnings (verification bonuses and commission) vs offer commission starting from today on the right.

Tell me where each referral came from.

Referral Tracker

Can Mass message referrals.

[Eric Sherman]

questions:
- does pee2ess tell you how many active refs you get, or it just tells you "you got x refs"
ANSWER: It just says X amount of refs.


No, they will tell you precisely how much a specific user has made if you care to look into it. It's like "referral stats" tab or something like that. So if you are actually interested, yes it will show you.

another question, does pee2ess tell you your referrals performance? like how many offers/points they did?

what advantages specifically are you referring to? if you mean they pay more, i don't disagree? or were u talking about something else?

Answered above. It doesn't matter how many offers, just points.

[jkernan7553]

Some of the advantages for Pee2Ess ref. are that offers are easier to do,so you'll get more money when your ref. does more offers.They get a sign up bonus of $.50 or 250 points.They hold a daily lottery,which you can win 6000 points ($60.00).The only way to get lottery tickets is to do an offer.You'll be getting more earnings if your refs want more tickets.They can play games to win points,which makes them not feel so bad when offers don't credit.They have an active chat box to ask/help/converse about problems and other stuff.Ref performance is based on alot of factors,and Pee2Ess seems to hit most of them right.I suggest you take some ideas,not just for refs,but for the whole site itself.One I'd like to see added would be something like Pee2Ess's Spin2Win.After every offer,you can spin a wheel to get merits,lottery tickets,sweepstakes entries,etc.Also,another site does something like this,but gives you cash as prizes for spinning.I think it would be a cool feature.

Not true :(

[onecrazedgamer]

196 refs earned me $29.72 on ***
over 70k earned me $3,000 on r1
226 refs earned me $27 on cashcrate

I am thinking to switch all my links to *** after the contest, Unless there is a new referral system from r1

[bean]

196 refs earned me $29.72 on ***
over 70k earned me $3,000 on r1
226 refs earned me $27 on cashcrate

I am thinking to switch all my links to *** after the contest, Unless there is a new referral system from r1

the new referral system will be announced before the end of the contest. thats the deadline we've given ourselves.

on a different note, did you guys noticed a jump in $ over the last 2 days? :smile

[larcha]

196 refs earned me $29.72 on ***
over 70k earned me $3,000 on r1
226 refs earned me $27 on cashcrate

I am thinking to switch all my links to *** after the contest, Unless there is a new referral system from r1

70k refs on *** would be $18,000 on *********** based on my ref stats

[Salamander]

i hear a lot of pee2ess, but how about cashcrate? is pee2ess > cashcrate?

In general yes, but cashcrate has a much better referring system and downline system.

I agree with what eric sherman said, and pee2ess is the top now, you need to compare to them and consider the differences. pee2ess easily has my win over this site any day considering the fluctuating referral amount (let's me determine how much quality traffic I'm bringing in) and then I'm also able to see things like how much i have earned in the last few days with graphs etc.. very helpful. that's beside the point though, that 30% isn't going to cut it, and eric laid it out well. if you want to be top start adding referral bonuses and you'll do better. I can't explain it beyond what eric said. that's all there is to be said.

as a sidenote, one thing i love about pee2ess is that i can see click impressions. i've sent in a suggestion a while ago about a ratio of refs:per click to instantly be shown to get a general idea on the impression (as you start hitting 2k~ refs the ratios are more estimates and you have to hit out a calc to get it) and something similar would be a nifty referral tool (and not terribly hard to code..)

[Stay weiRd]

I effing hate referring people .

[onecrazedgamer]

the new referral system will be announced before the end of the contest. thats the deadline we've given ourselves.

on a different note, did you guys noticed a jump in $ over the last 2 days? :smile

I sure have!